Fire & Soul Podcast
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I'm Michelle Sorro, host of Fire and Soul, a top 1% globally ranked podcast where practical mysticism meets embodied leadership. These are intimate conversations with visionary teachers, mystics, scientists, and cultural leaders exploring how awakening unfolds in real life through our bodies, relationships, work, and purpose.
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Lee Harris + The Z's
Regina Meredith
Paul Selig + The Guides
Danielle LaPorte
Kyle Cease
Katie Hess
Mark Nepo
Jack Canfield
Anne Tucker
Dave Asprey
Aaron Abke
Marie Diamond
Danny Morel
Dr. Sue Morter
Panache Desai
Belinda Womack + The 12 Archangels
Lorie Ladd
Mark Groves
Michael Sandler
Preston Smiles
Dr. Christiane Northrup
Jocelyn Reyburn
Stefanos Sifandos
Sigmar Berg
Guru Singh
James McCrae
Christine Hassler
Mama Gena
Joseph McClendon III
Alison Armstrong
“Michelle’s powerful voice, her compassion and strength, and the fact that she lives everything she teaches fully and wholeheartedly are what draws us all to her over and over! I can’t get enough!”
— Bridget S., CEO of Samson Coaching & Consulting
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The Sacred Alchemy of Healing with Dr. Cass Naumann
What if the deepest medicine you’re seeking has been alive within you all along?
In this week’s Fire and Soul, I sit down with my dear sister Dr. Cass Naumann—doctor of Chinese medicine, ordained Daoist priestess, musician, and ceremonialist—for a profoundly moving conversation on the sacred alchemy of healing.
Cass shares her remarkable journey from musician to healer, and how the initiations of grief, devotion, and spiritual cultivation shaped her path. We explore why ceremony matters so deeply in these times, how our bodies carry the keys to transformation, and what it means to activate our “inner pharmacy” of joy, presence, and connection.
This is one of those rich, heart-opening dialogues that feels like a ceremony in itself, and I cannot wait for you to experience it.
🌿 In this episode, you’ll hear us dive into:
The moment grief became Cass’s greatest teacher and reoriented her life’s work
How she bridges Chinese medicine, Daoist priesthood, and ceremonial wisdom
The questions she asks every patient: What brings you joy? and Do you have a spiritual practice?—and why the answers matter
Rituals and emotional alchemy practices for transmuting grief, anger, and frustration into virtue
Why invisibility, Wu Wei (effortless action), and embodied presence are essential medicine right now
The power of ceremony to bring reverence, belonging, and healing into everyday life
Cass closes our time with a blessing that will leave you rooted in peace and love.
📍 Connect with Dr. Cass
Website: doctorcass.com
Instagram: @doctor.cass
📚 Additional Resource
If you feel called to explore the trainings at Trauma and Somatics—the organization Cass and I are currently students of and highly recommend—you can learn more at traumaandsomatics.com. And if you decide to move forward with a training, you’re welcome to use the code MICHELLESORRO for a significant savings.
If this conversation nourishes you, share it with a friend and let me know your favorite moment—I love hearing how these dialogues land in your heart.
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