Fire & Soul Podcast
Conversations that Activate Your Gifts
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I only want conversations that truly matter.
I'm Michelle Sorro, host of Fire & Soul, a top 1% ranked podcast devoted to conversations that expand consciousness, activate our Gifts, and inspire us to live fully alive.
Because it's not just about what we've awakened from. It's about what we've awakened for.
Through intimate conversations with visionary teachers, mystics, and courageous voices of our time, we explore spiritual awakening, sovereignty, embodied wisdom, and the extraordinary possibilities that open when we bring what we know into how we live, love, lead, and prosper.
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Lee Harris + The Z's
Regina Meredith
Paul Selig + The Guides
Danielle LaPorte
Kyle Cease
Katie Hess
Mark Nepo
Jack Canfield
Anne Tucker
Dave Asprey
Aaron Abke
Marie Diamond
Danny Morel
Dr. Sue Morter
Panache Desai
Belinda Womack + The 12 Archangels
Lorie Ladd
Mark Groves
Michael Sandler
Preston Smiles
Dr. Christiane Northrup
Jocelyn Reyburn
Stefanos Sifandos
Sigmar Berg
Guru Singh
James McCrae
Christine Hassler
Mama Gena
Joseph McClendon III
Alison Armstrong
“Michelle’s powerful voice, her compassion and strength, and the fact that she lives everything she teaches fully and wholeheartedly are what draws us all to her over and over! I can’t get enough!”
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Daniel Gibson | How to Be Intentional with Race

Here’s to doing the right thing!
This pod features a long-overdue guest, but this conversation comes at exactly the right time. You’ll meet one of my best friends of 26 years: the extraordinary Daniel Gibson. Daniel, a graduate from Yale with a Masters in social work, is a passionate community leader and advocate for social justice, who spent the last 15 years championing causes to eradicate racism and poverty in the United States. He’s created and implemented nationally recognized programs for jail and prison reform, affordable housing, access to medical care for the chronically homeless, HIV/AIDS prevention and LGBT+ rights. He’s dedicated to addressing the root causes of economic and health disparities experienced by vulnerable and marginalized communities.
Yet, in our 26 years of friendship, this is the first time we’ve ever talked about race. I wanted to know WHY in an effort to unpack my own subconscious biases, which is exactly what we cover in this deeply honest, vulnerable and empowering conversation. His reasons why we never talked about race blew me away and I have no doubt will enlighten you as well.
Throughout this episode, Daniel and I have an intentional conversation about race. He discusses his relationship with his Blackness, how he’s learned to embrace it, and what that means for him and the community he’s honored to serve moving forward. We also talk about a powerful post that Daniel shared on Instagram about why he chose not to march in the protests for justice for George Floyd.
This is a meaningful, intentional, and needed conversation with a beautiful force for good. My hope is that it encourages you to stop worrying about “getting it right” and simply do the right thing. Thank you, dear Daniel, for being the epitome of Fire and Soul.
Some Questions I Ask:
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Why haven’t you ever brought your Blackness to the party of our friendship? (9:24)
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How can people begin the internal healing process when working toward becoming anti-racist? (13:48)
In This Episode, You Will Learn:
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What led Daniel to become a social worker. (4:53)
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How Daniel learned to embrace his Black heritage. (9:29)
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What being authentically anti-racist looks like. (14:12)
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Why Daniel chose not to march at the protests. (23:04)
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Why saying something is better than remaining silent. (28:39)
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